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Monday Dec 01, 2025
Alpha Centauri Debrief and A Coercion Primer- Part 2
Monday Dec 01, 2025
Monday Dec 01, 2025
Greetings once more in love, light, and wisdom as one.
Omal returns to questions about farsighting or would have except that he happened across a file in Mark's brain called Python humor. He couldn't resist and broke out a Monty Python joke to liven things up. We get back on topic which is ideas he can provide to take it to the next step from all that Tia had gone over. What he suggests is visiting Sedona and the various universities around the world to help with looking for landmarks to find my way to each one. He identifies those places of learning that were working on astral travel at the time. He next suggests other places around the world like visit to hone my skill at astral travel such as Edinburgh or the Imperial Palace in China. That was all we had time for so we move on from there to the next session where this time we would have guests. Kiri is the ring mistress for the session and starts things off with introductions all around. She gets a surprise in that one of the guests has a son in the room called Alex which happens to be her son's name also. Before we get to questions and answers, there is some housekeeping she needed to go over which was a visit that Mark and I had planned to a psychic who was able to read auras and her husband. The plan was to have Kiri and Karra channeling through Mark but he would be up on the base in his astral body at the same time. So his physical body would be theirs to use and they would feed me questions while we talked to the people. We have been trying to perfect the technique since we had discovered it during a Pink Floyd concert. When we do get the questions, it is about coercion lessons for one of the guests who was moving to Las Vegas where it might come in handy. So she gives a basic primer on coercion for him along with examples of various coercers throughout history. She next does a coercion example by trying to coerce a cat in the room. We finish up so Omal can get us to the end of the tape by offering advice about a light sound technology that we were looking to test. It would integrate pulsed lights flashed through goggles that would correspond to sound coming through at the same time. It was thought it would be a way to achieve deeper states of consciousness along with opening up deeper states of the mind. Omal was already familiar with the tech and what it could do so his advice was very helpful. The technology was also thought to help with stopping smoking which is just about where the tape stopped as well. It was a good session where we learned a lot.
For full transcripts of this session and more information about Hades Base and the 6th dimension, please visit our website:
http://hadesbasenews.com
The sessions lasted from 1992 to 2001 with this one being taped on 02/06/93 & 05/20/1994. Side two includes:
1.)(0:00)- Omal finishes out a short session by suggesting locations I can visit in my astral body to build up the skill. He also suggests looking at maps ahead of time to note any landmarks to point the way.
2.)(9:07)- Kiri starts off a brand new channeling session with making arrangements for a planned visit to someone who could see auras. She then gives a coercion primer for a guest in the room to get him started.
3.)(25:15)- Omal gives his take on some googles designed to help increase psychic skills by using lights that strobe and sounds in ways that act on the brain. One of the benefits was to help reach a Theta state.

Monday Dec 01, 2025
Alpha Centauri Debrief and A Coercion Primer- Part 1
Monday Dec 01, 2025
Monday Dec 01, 2025
Greetings in love, light, and wisdom as one.
A situation arose with this month's channeling session with the members of Ashtar Command and the session chosen for this month only had ten minutes total on side B. We had another tape with only the first thirty minutes recorded so we added them together to make a complete addition to the Ashtar Command archives. We will have guests in the second session but this session it was just me answering questions right away from Korton about a astral travel trip Tia and I had taken earlier that day out to Alpha Centauri and back using Sirius as a waypoint. This was a breakthrough for me that we had made it that far to visit the base on Alpha Centauri and so he was interested in the process that helped me achieve that trip. He can only stay for a short while so Tia comes on and we go over the trip also as a sort of continuing debrief of how everything went. Much of what we discuss is about the navigation needed to reach a point in space when constellations are changing as your position in space is changing. She gives me some good tips about using known planets and constellations as waypoints so as to not lose direction. She also helps me to understand the use of charged particles and dark matter as fuel that I was testing out for the first time. We next talk about the base itself on Alpha Centauri and how it was outside instead of being deep below a planet like Hades base. We finished with coming up with analogies to use for future trips that will bring back all the successful things done that day. Kiri is the next very pregnant speaker and we start off with chitchat about her pregnancy, the end of the ski season and putting in a golf course on the base. She has a funny response to that last one. We finally get to coercion questions and her advice for shortening coercive commands into one or two word sentences. After that it's time for Omal to come on for the minute or so left on the tape before we move on to his picking things up again on side two.
For full transcripts of this session and more information about Hades Base and the 6th dimension, please visit our website:
http://hadesbasenews.com
The sessions lasted from 1992 to 2001 with this one being taped on 02/06/93 & 05/20/1994. Side one includes:
1.)(0:00)- Korton only has a few minutes to channel so he uses the time to debrief me on a trip he already had a report but wanted to hear firsthand what it was I did to get to where I was going in my astral body.
2.)(3:46)- Tia and I now go over what took place during our astral travel trip together to Alpha Centauri and how not to get lost when constellations seen from Earth look so different the closer you get to them.
2.)(3:46)- Tia and I now go over what took place during our astral travel trip together to Alpha Centauri and how not to get lost when constellations seen from Earth look so different the closer you get to them.

Saturday Nov 01, 2025
Rediscovering Amplified Pyramid Resonance- Part 2
Saturday Nov 01, 2025
Saturday Nov 01, 2025
Greetings once more in love, light, and wisdom as one.
A week later Karra begins the channeling session in song as she does a very bad Beatles rendition of Twist and Shout before asking if she could get a job as a John Lennon sound alike. That humerus start is followed up with a discussion about Sanpaku which is a Japanese study of the eyes to diagnose issues with health and diet. It was a book I had been reading that brought up the questions Karra answered such as the reason the irises reflect health is because of the amount of blood in the eyes is a mirror of what was going on in the body or a she says, the gateway to the soul. We next discuss a current girlfriend of mine and some health issues she had been going through. Kara helps with some dietary changes that might make a difference before we transfer over to the next channeling from Korton who was about to blow us away. As places get changed and the head of communications for Ashtar Command takes his place in the channeling field, we return to a subject we had been covering about pyramid application. He now expands on this subject by explaining how energy is amplified by the design of the pyramid and that it either comes in to the pyramid and spreads out or condenses as it is gathered at the top and sent out. What we learn is that a pyramid is not just a simple construction but a very complicated computer if it is aligned correctly with the proper dimensions. The reason for that we find out is because it is based on the same design that powers the great pyramid of Giza but in a reduced level. Mark and I had built the pyramid but added copper wiring to form a pentagram as the base we would put the futon were Mark would then channel. Korton explains that there are four functions to a pyramid and the pentagram enabled one of them. The other three were available on any properly set up pyramid. After that revelation, we move on to the base geneticist Kornas who joined the session to get my opinions on the drink I was testing for him. It turns out it is a magnetic algae-based beverage that is slightly viscous. To help make it more palatable, he suggests adding kiwifruit flavoring and chilling it so it would be more like a milkshake. That's a workable option I agree to and the session comes to an end at that point as the tape runs out. An excellent addition to the Ashar Command archives.
For full transcripts of this session and more information about Hades Base and the 6th dimension, please visit our website:
http://hadesbasenews.com
The sessions lasted from 1992 to 2001 with this one being taped on 07/21/1993. Side two includes:
1.)(0:00)- Karra comes on singing before we get into a serious discussion about Sanpaku, a way of determining health through a study of the eyes. She explains how our diet can be reflected in the eyes.
2.)(10:24)- Korton and I pick up our conversation on pyramid amplification and we learn that the computer in the room as well as the Great Pyramid are very complicated computers with four functions.
3.)(32:48)- Kornas makes an appearance to get the results of a magnetic algae drink he had me testing for him. He explains he will have to make it thicker but would chill and flavor it to be more like a milkshake.

Saturday Nov 01, 2025
Rediscovering Amplified Pyramid Resonance- Part 1
Saturday Nov 01, 2025
Saturday Nov 01, 2025
Greetings in love, light, and wisdom as one.
The channeling session for November took place over two subsequent weeks in July of 1993. At the time we were worried about Mark's energy levels so we were only doing half of a forty-five minute tape. Tia gets us started by needing an explanation on a magic trick Mark and I had watched. It had been a while since she had been ring mistress so no questions were prepared for her and she brings in Kiri to answer questions in the meantime. The subject we get into are the pleasure centers that she had been training me on and how to enhance them using coercion. We had been interrupted during our latest class so I had been trying it out on Karra with her permission. We found that the effect feeds back on itself because of the intimacy when it is being used. The effect turned out to be beneficial for both of us and was helpful as a lesson. We switch over to some more serious knowledge with Korton who takes over for Kiri in which we discuss star charts and navigation while in space during astral travel looking for waypoints. He brings up the question of whether or not we could take the lesson out under an open sky for more visual references during an upcoming camping trip. That camping trip is already part of the archives where we even had Wing Commander Taal doing a flyby on instructions from the base. He reminded us to bring crystals as power sources since we wouldn't have the pyramid doing the same function. He wraps things up and we get back to Karra who finishes out the side discussing her pregnancy with our twins. They hadn't decided whether they were going to be male or female and both Kiri and myself had been mentally connecting with them to help with their decision. They would turn out to be male after all. I talk to Karra about my helping Kornas with some experiments he was running with a special kind of drink he had designed that he and I would discuss on side two. So we end with some news about Wing Commander Taal and how he would be getting back from his mission we had talked about last week. The next side would take place a week later where the really groundbreaking information would be revealed.
For full transcripts of this session and more information about Hades Base and the 6th dimension, please visit our website:
http://hadesbasenews.com
The sessions lasted from 1992 to 2001 with this one being taped on 07/14/1993. Side one includes:
1.)(3:43)- Kiri and I return to a subject we had been working on which were the pleasure centers of the body. She reminds us that when embracing someone, the two of you are intertwining each other's shields.
2.)(11:52)- Korton comes on to work on star charts and at the same time set up for a channeling session during a camping session where stars would be studied. It has been added to the archives and was great.
3.)(23:17)- Karra is pregnant with our twins who had yet to decide which sex they would be. Kiri and I were offering our opinions to them. In this session we hear about a drink Kornas had me testing for him.

Wednesday Oct 01, 2025
Biorhythms Plus Bio Magnets and the Life Force- Part 2
Wednesday Oct 01, 2025
Wednesday Oct 01, 2025
Greetings once more in love, light, and wisdom as one.
Karra takes over for her boss at this point as we explore an old energy I had discovered when I was a child and remembered during a recent healing I had done. It involves holding your arm up and using what Karra calls the collected energy available to everyone to help keep the arm in one place. It's like invisible jets of air that you can feel physically to the point of laying your arm against the generated force. In fact, that is what her and I agree the force is mostly like which inspires a quote from Yoda of Star Wars from her. This force we discussed was then theorized as being used in healing and helping others when they feel drained. As she says, the energy being used attracts other energy which, added to the person's own energy and directed thoughts give it substance. She adds that who are hyper sometimes are helped by having the energy drained from them to be used for helping power astral travel for example. One thing not explained clearly in the tape was that I was going to speak to the triplets still in the womb of Tia to answer questions and inadvertently helped them choose their names. Tia would be sedated during this and had asked for help to explain the third dimension to her cubs. Karra then makes way for her little sis to take over from there and we discuss using that force covered earlier in conjunction with coercion. As it turns out, the two go together well. It also brings up the story of the past lives of Mark and myself back when we were brothers in Atlantis and how the coercion used then by me corrupted absolutely. This then was a life where those same mistakes could be rectified by the proper learning the morals and reasons for using coercion. Kiri admits to reminding herself why she is using that skill. Then unexpectedly we get the guest speaker of Wing Commander Taal showing up a little bit tipsy with his new girlfriend who would one day become his bond mate and mother of his child. We get to talking about the R&R the two of them were enjoying until going back onto patrols where she would now become his wing lady. I get the fun of explaining what a bachelor party is and how one day there would be little Taal's. He's off to enjoy time off and we're adding a great channeling session to the Ashtar Command archives.
For full transcripts of this session and more information about Hades Base and the 6th dimension, please visit our website:
http://hadesbasenews.com
The sessions lasted from 1992 to 2001 with this one being taped on 06/28/1993. Side two includes:
1.)(0:00)- Karra helps in defining the use of mental energy why it attracts other energy to help create physical effects through a fun exercise. It is a simple way to learn what could be referred to as the force.
2.)(17:23)- Kiri theorizes about using the same energy from the talk with Karra in helping with coercion. She cautions that a reason why to use coercion is considered first based on the morals of the reason.
3.)(25:50)- Wing Commander Taal makes a surprise appearance in the middle of his R&R and one of the pilots on the base. Accompanying him was his new girlfriend who would one day be the mother of his son.

Wednesday Oct 01, 2025
Biorhythms Plus Bio Magnets and the Life Force- Part 1
Wednesday Oct 01, 2025
Wednesday Oct 01, 2025
Greetings in love, light, and wisdom as one.
We have a treat for the followers of the Ashtar Command archives in the channeling session for the month of October in the form of the base geneticist, Kornas, who uses up the entire first half with discussions on biorhythms and bio magnets as a do-it-yourself med bed. Those are all the rage right now and he had the answers back in 1993. It seems perfect that the knowledge should be shared now just at a time when they are most needed. The subject of biorhythms and biomagnetics had already been planned which accounted for his appearance to discuss them but we weren't expecting the levels the conversation would explore. We start with the cycles of biorhythms but that soon develops into a system for rejuvenation that would slow the aging process at different levels depending on the set up, the bio magnets, and the mental attitude of the person being rejuvenated. He includes the warning that wanting to be too young too fast has negative effects in the long run as opposed to smaller and less frequent sessions. Some of the requirements include a clean mind, clean body, and a clean room. He suggests a good diet at an early age instead to stay young. After supplying the details for a rejuvenation device, he brings back biorhythms into the mix by knowing when to apply the bio magnets once the cycle reaches its optimum point of effectiveness. He points out that for individual ailments, bio magnets can be used to speed up the healing. We get the further benefit of his answer when he explains how the magnets should be laid out depending on what is wrong. It's at this point he addresses the conjunction of crystals and biomagnetics with the crystals being placed under the person. In answer to why biorhythms have such an effect on the body, his answer is that: "it is because of the energy of the individual and the planetary energy in conjunction with the celestial energy and pull of the gravity of the moon". The side ends as he suggests soft music and soft lighting for the healing space.
For full transcripts of this session and more information about Hades Base and the 6th dimension, please visit our website:
http://hadesbasenews.com
The sessions lasted from 1992 to 2001 with this one being taped on 06/28/1993. Side one includes:
1.)(2:36)- Kornas discusses the building of a rejuvenation device using bio magnets in conjunction with biorhythms and crystals. He also gives ways in which bio magnets can be aligned to help with healing.

Monday Sep 01, 2025
Answering the Council and Photonic Power- Part 2
Monday Sep 01, 2025
Monday Sep 01, 2025
Greetings once more in love, light, and wisdom as one.
Kiri takes over now as ring mistress on side two and right away we get into the subject of reverse magnetics. To explain, the human body has a magnetic field which is the same on everyone so that when two polarities meet, they repel each other so we were looking at ways of attracting instead. Luckily Kiri has some ideas on how to make that work. We next dive into her favorite subject of coercion as she narrows down the key in doing it successfully is to go pupil to pupil. That is looking to someone's eye to have the best effect with something like mentally saying greetings to them. She then exits out of the channeling field so that her sister Karra can take her place as her and I compare notes on my slightly successful attempt to be more solid on the base in my astral body. After that though is when she gives me the bad news that Tia's pregnancy with the three cubs isn't going well and they will have to be split up. What that means is that Luna would take over the pregnancy of baby Athena thanks to the incredible medical skills of the base geneticist Kornas. We already know the transfer was successful and the births would go off with no problems at all. We next explore a fun topic of photonic power and its role in healing. She describes it as a pulsing energy that can be used like a little jackhammer on areas needing a pulsing bit of energy instead of a laser focused beam. We know from other channeling sessions that to detect photonic energy you need to put your finger in the air and feel for pulsing energy you can just barely sense. As she says, the more experience you get using it, it begins to feel like a vibrational stream of energy when it hits its full potential. We go over reverse magnetics in healing which shields the body like a surgical glove. Finally we go over infrared energy to heat up an area that needs an infusion of warmth to soothe an ache for example. The heat generated is a conscious energy that affects the cells of the body while an electric blanket she says would be unconscious energy being used. She switches places once again with her sister again and the question first off is about projecting radio waves from the eyes. That then leads into a conversation on the various forms of consciousness ranging between Alpha and gamma. So she explains that the conscious waves being sent out act on the subconscious of other individuals when the person is in their various forms of consciousness. It's a fascinating conversation dealing with the interactions of waves of thought on people and matter. I run out of questions and so we trade a few old jokes to end the session, one of the better ones and very worthy of the Ashtar Command archives.
For full transcripts of this session and more information about Hades Base and the 6th dimension, please visit our website:
http://hadesbasenews.com
The sessions lasted from 1992 to 2001 with this one being taped on 06/21/1993. Side two includes:
1.)(0:00)- Kiri helps to use reverse magnetics when it comes to the body's magnetism and other people. She also has some excellent advice on the use of coercion and how the center of the eye holds the key.
2.)(9:11)- Karra gives us an update on how the pregnancy of Tia is going with the triplets of Mark and Tia and how the three will need to be split up. Luna takes on the pregnancy of one of the three as a last resort.
3.)(0:00)- Kiri goes over the waves of thought from brains explaining that the conscious waves sent by a person act on the subconscious of the person where they have been directed. We also trade a few jokes.

Monday Sep 01, 2025
Answering the Council and Photonic Power- Part 1
Monday Sep 01, 2025
Monday Sep 01, 2025
Greetings in love, light, and wisdom as one.
As summer wanes and fall fast approaches, we cap off the summer with by far the most important session as well as the most clearest session of the year. In this channeling session in which Mark Crocker was letting the members of Ashtar Command speaks through him, Korton was the unofficial ringmaster. Rwo members of the Council of Twelve had arrived on the base and stopped by our session being held in one of the channeling rooms to ask someone from third dimensional Earth about third dimensional Earth. They didn't speaking English so Korton took over asking the questions for them which included questions about my shielding capabilities and psychic skills I had been developing. The questions moved on from me to the human race and its potential to become a psychically operant species and the timeframe I felt it would take before that could happen. Now this was in 1993 and I seem to have logically figured out that it would take at least fifty years and need some worldwide threats to motivate the population to become more conscious. We will see if global warming becomes a key motivating factor in humanity waking up psychically. The two visitors had to leave so Omal comes on to answer questions next. We cover a physics lesson as Omal explains kinetic energy compared to potential energy. It revolves around how psychic gifts work when they use the energy around them and Omal was pointing out that the kinetic energy just now needs and mental nudge to get it going in the form needed for the task. He ends with a lesson on the delay effect of astral projection where after you leave a place, you leave an imprint that fades away eventually but can still be stepped into the astral body if you suddenly return to your physical body. Korton returns to finish out the side with some final questions and I want to know how the shield test he conducted earlier on me had gone in his opinion. At the time, I have been talking to Mark in the living room when I got a warning the test was about to take place. I was slow getting my static shields up over my stacked shields so was penetrated and ended up physically ill from the energy he was sending. It was a valuable lesson that help me prepare for further tests that came later on. All that is left is working on ways with him to ensure the static shields get placed in time. We would then take a long break where Mark would come back to his body and recharge with some tea before heading back up to the base to now channel from the apartment he shared with Tia and Kiri.
For full transcripts of this session and more information about Hades Base and the 6th dimension, please visit our website:
http://hadesbasenews.com
The sessions lasted from 1992 to 2001 with this one being taped on 06/21/1993. Side one includes:
1.)(0:00)- Korton asks questions from the two very special guests to the base who want to know about the future of the human race and its potential to become an advanced race with developed psychic powers.
2.)(27:50)- Omal gives a physics lesson in explaining the energy used when using one's psyhic gifts. What he demonstrates is kinetic energy formed from its potential to become whatever energy is needed.
3.)(41:11)- Korton is back to give me the results of a shield test he had sprung on me with no warning earlier that evening. He has good advice and ways to enhance the response time with similar tests.

Friday Aug 01, 2025
Just the Girls and Free Energy- Part 2
Friday Aug 01, 2025
Friday Aug 01, 2025
Greetings once more in love, light, and wisdom as one.
As we return to the topic of free energy once the site has switched, we now focus on how to transfer the collected energy from heat for example into powering a vehicle. She finds it a waste of energy to not capture the heat from the heat generated by brakes or within cylinder heads to then store it as a usable source. The tricky part she couldn't reveal was the actual heat to energy process for a car though this was back in the 90s. As we review various options, we discuss the various ways of saying the trunk of a car as a fun diversion. We then finish up her time channeling with how conduction is related to the storing of energy. A guest speaker in the form of Lyka was supposed to channel at this point but had become terrified for some reason and lost her voice. We try having Tia relay what was being said but things go downhill. Instead, Karra takes over to finish up the night. What we learn from her is that it was probably her who caused Lyka to lose her voice due to a comment she made. Kiri and Karra's family is one of the major ones on their home planet of Sirius. So when Kara came in late to the session, Lyka bowed her head in a gesture of respect. Karra, in an attempt to diffuse any tension, made a comment which caused Lyka to turn 40 shades of red. That brings up the analogy of someone living next to Buckingham palace which made the girl next-door the opposite of run-of-the-mill. We learn a revelation that younger Sirians don't start enjoying alcohol until they're into the thirties. Flowers would be more their preference. She then provides the clue to free energy by using magnets that repel each other which then turns a wheel. Again, this was in the 90s and the huge solar and wind farms had not yet become a thing. Just after we get through discussing mankind's survival with all the threats being faced, she suggests a move underground much as they do on the base as one solution. She points out the need to have a plan for contingencies should there be a need. That's when she pivots to something she picked up about me that was off. With our linked minds, she tries to dig down from inside while asking me questions to narrow the search. After much theorizing, it comes down to possibly being about Alana and the child of the two of us soon to be born. The tape ends on a historically short session that was the first which was under an hour. It has good sound though and great information for the Ashtar Command archives.
For full transcripts of this session and more information about Hades Base and the 6th dimension, please visit our website:
http://hadesbasenews.com
The sessions lasted from 1992 to 2001 with this one being taped on 05/24/1994. Side two includes:
1.)(0:00)- Kiri finishes up on side two a theory started on one about the experiments of Nikola Tesla on free energy. She is wondering why in the 90s we weren't capturing heat in an engine to power it as well.
2.)(11:01)- Karra finishes up the channeling session for a change explaining how her station in life has carried over to the base which made Lyka too scared to channel. She also digs into what's eating me.

Friday Aug 01, 2025
Just the Girls and Free Energy- Part 1
Friday Aug 01, 2025
Friday Aug 01, 2025
Greetings in love, light, and wisdom as one.
Welcome to the third month in a row that have followed three weeks of channeling sessions back in May 1994 from the members of Ashtar Command. While the two previous months have had Omal or Korton channeling, there may have been a meeting and it was only the three girls on the base who normally channel anyway. Something else unusual was Kiri starting things off instead of Tia. With that said, Kiri comes back to a previous conversation where we discussed friends who moved away but later came back changed in some way. Her explanation for it is that they change to a different parallel universe and only an aspect of them is what you meet later on. What follows that is about a discussion I had had with our friend Carrie about the difference between precognition and déjà vu. Kiri then provides her take on the subject. We also learn from her that, while the computers on the base are very smart, they aren't self-aware. She wraps up and that then brings on Tia to follow-up. She tells us about a mistake made by the lab where Kiri and her had been mixed up in their medications so that instead of Kiri helped to get pregnant, it was possibly Tia who was now set to have a new litter. The problem was that the father would be Mark and that means bigger babies than her race could biologically deliver. In her first pregnancy, one of the triplets was delivered by Luna after being transferred from Tia's womb. What Tia was considering was going through a rejuvenation process that would take her back to the age of sixteen and thus reversed the pregnancy. We know now that Tia didn't have a second litter. The only drawback to the rejuvenation idea was a hormone problem that would have to be resolved with medication. That is it for Tia's time channeling so Kiri returned to finish up the side and get the next one started. The topic we get into is of Nikola Tesla and the topic of free energy that he had devoted his life to giving to the world. We start with some of his basic principles and see how he was working with various fields, cosmic rays, and rarefied air in the upper strata of the planet. Unfortunately, that's where the tape ends we have to pick up the subject on side two.
For full transcripts of this session and more information about Hades Base and the 6th dimension, please visit our website:
http://hadesbasenews.com
The sessions lasted from 1992 to 2001 with this one being taped on 05/24/1994. Side one includes:
1.)(0:00)- Kiri starts things off with a take on friends who go away but return changed due to being on a different parallel universe. We also discuss the differences between precognition and déjà vu.
2.)(9:06)- Tia tells how a mix up in medications maybe got Tia pregnant and Kiri not when it was supposed to be the other way around. Now it was whether Tia wanted to reverse things via a rejuvenation..
